Back in early March, I had the privilege of being interviewed by Sarah Bereza and The Rev. Bill Smutz for their church leadership podcast, Getting to Nimble. Little did I know they would be the last visitors to my home before we we began social distancing a few days later.

Changing our musical habits is hard (and oddly enough right now, maybe both easier and harder than ever). In this episode, we talk about being open to musical change and helping others embrace the new, even when they’re sure they only want what they already know.

Take a listen!

Bill, Sarah, and I having a cup of tea and recording together